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Posted By populist 1 year, 8 months ago in Arts & EntertainmentHis own credibility aside, Tenet has succeeded in destroying the asset without which an intelligence community cannot be effective and informed policy making is at grave risk-trustworthiness. That is serious. He seems blissfully oblivious to the damage he has done-aware only of the damage he accuses others of doing to his "personal honor.&qu
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citizen-by-choice1 year, 8 months ago
I Blame BILL CLINTON (Slick Willy) for appointing Tenet in the first place. A true political appointment rather than a merit based one. Ask CLINTON why he politicized the CIA !!! BUT WITHOUT QUESTION - GEORGE W. BUSH is an idiot, also a liberal "republican" if the term can even be applied to "W". One thing is for certain, Bush Jr. is NOT and will never be a conservative, he and his father have courted the Clintons and he has allowed the Clinton scum appointees ala Tenet and numerous federal prosecutors (to name just a few examples)to remain in position of high importance to this nation. I blame our idiot, leftist leaning pot smoking, ex-alcoholic - Clinton ass kissing George W. Bush and his father(Papa Bush - Reagan's greatest mistake !
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mamasan1 year, 8 months ago
Stop smoking the reefer yourself buddy!
did you even read the story???
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So we've got ruined reputations and blots on records. Poor boys. What about the 3, 344 American soldiers already killed in a war that could not have happened had not these poor fellows deliberately distorted the evidence and led the cheering for war. What about the more than 50,000 troops wounded, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians whose deaths can be attributed directly to the invasion and its aftermath. There are blots, and there are blots. Why is it that Tenet and Powell seem to inhabit a different planet?
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jeffery11 year, 8 months ago
When Clinton appointed Tenet there was no requirement that intelligence provide support to ideology. Historians and agents need to evaluate his performance but Clinton did not coerce Tenet or anyone else to provide anything but their best judgement. There was no agenda under Clinton.
Whether Tenet was any good is a totally different question.
G.W. Bush is absolutely a conservative. In the spectrum of what is conservative he fits: fascist, authoritarian, militaristic, anti-diplomatic, theocratic, etc. He may not be your kind of conservative, and I know a bunch who don't like his kind of conservatism, but he is conservative.
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invest071 year, 8 months ago
The most serious mistake GWB ever made was "the new tone". It is becoming more and more apparent that Bush should have immediately fired every federal employee hired by Clinton.
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citizen-by-choice1 year, 8 months ago
It all started with Papa Bush and his desire for a new American aristocracy (the Bush Clan), Papa Bush, the one that dismissed General Norman Schwarzkopf- the true brains & guts and glory of Desert Storm in favor of the "brilliant" or more correctly stated worthless appeaser-Colin Powell that recommended that Saddam remain in power after operation Dessert Storm and that we once again abandon the true democratic forces-the Kurds, the same Papa Bush that rewarded Communist China by pushing to gain senate approval for "favorite nation status" a few months after the single greatest attempt at Democracy in China-Tianamen Square incident, the same Papa Bush that is now golfing and "touring" disaster areas around the world with his new found friend - the despicable, worthless pot-smoking, womanizer from Arkansas, none other than Bill Clinton).
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m-simon1 year, 8 months ago
Bush Jr. at least gets the importance of self government.
I Support Democracy In Iraq
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-s...
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quackpot1 year, 8 months ago
err, I believe you mean ..."importance of government by myself, G.W.B. (with a kindly nod to my good buddy Cheney)" Congress? Nah.
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jeffery11 year, 8 months ago
Schwarzkopf did not want to move to Baghdad during Desert Storm. The evaluation of the consequences were pretty much aligned with what we are witnessing now. In fact, it was Schwarzkopf, along with Powell, who permitted Saddam's security forces into the south to quell the Shi'ite uprising Bush had called for because he felt that Iraq fragmenting was worse than allowing Saddam to maintain order.
You need to read real history books about Schwarzkopf because you seem to have some delusional ideas about him. Not that he was bad but that your ideas don't align with the real man.
As for China, I believe that what you witnessed around Tianaman Square was simply a continuation of the policy of engagement started with Nixon, right or wrong. Also, what else would you expect of a fascist nation like the U.S.? Our policies are basically structured to support business interests and have been for quite some time.
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invest071 year, 8 months ago
"Also, what else would you expect of a fascist nation like the U.S.? "
You need to do some research into fascism before you make this claim.
Fascism is a form of the liberal state, somewhere between socialism and free enterprise. In fascism, ownership of anchor industries and institutions is maintained in private ownsership but is so heavily regulated as to be under effective control of the government.
Fascism came about as an answer to the problems created in socialism and communism when anchor industries are governemnt owned. (The problems come when bureaucrats try to run a complex enterprise and run it into the ground).
Fascism leaves ownership in private hands and lets competent citizens own and run the enterprise. The government taxes heavily and regulates out the wazoo to effectively control the enterprise, without actually having to run it.
We have a lot of problems but we are not a fascist state, although that is the goal of the American Left.
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citizen-by-choice1 year, 8 months ago
This is our payback for electing low class scum, white trash liberals like Clinton and Madam Hillary (the diablical ex-Goldwater volunteer turned left and right and left as the wind blows - the Wellesley College (lesbian college) graduate- Madam Hillary ROTTEN Clinton. and let's not forget about George W. Bush (just a tad bit better than Clinton). Did anyone expect any better from these losers ???
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m-simon1 year, 8 months ago
My mom is a D. I am an R.
We keep the peace at the end of our political conversations by agreeing that they are all crooks!
Still. I Support Democracy In Iraq
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-s...
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Gatsby1 year, 8 months ago
Hey citizen,
You are proof that the adage "A closed mind is usually accompanied by an open mouth" is still true.
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1-2-Oscar1 year, 8 months ago
Nice rant.
You have potential but you need an editor, citizen-by-choice. You pad your presentation with far too much irrelevant material.
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m-simon1 year, 8 months ago
If only Tenet could keep his stories straight he could set the record straight.
What he says today is 180 deg from what he said in 2002. You can look it up.
Tenet needs reconcilliation badly. With himself.
I Support Democracy In Iraq
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-s...
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WCFIELDS1 year, 8 months ago
"all the things that the CIA got right," while conceding that it...performed "inadequately" in assessing weapons of mass destruction in Iraq."
GOOD NEWS. I hadn't realized that the CIA had got much of anything right since Bill Clinton's eight long years in orifice.
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NelsonR1 year, 8 months ago
nikki - I going to come down on Colins side on this issue. It is well known that he got caught up in the lies and false intel and consequently he bailed and rightfully so. He thought he was just repeating facts that we all know now was distorted to extremes to promote a war of aggression. Gosh you would think that alone is enough for impeachment for both Bush and Cheney.
Remember even Congress and many Americans believed Bush's and Cheney's lies. So why blame Colin Powell?
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m-simon1 year, 8 months ago
Wait a minute I thought the guy behind the lies was Democrat Tenet?
So the Democrat lies and you blame Bush? How convenient.
And it is probably Bush's fault you don't support democracy in Iraq. Man that Bush is one evil dude. He can make democrats deny their democratic principles.
I Support Democracy In Iraq
http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2007/04/i-s...
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vor1 year, 8 months ago
You guys always neglect to mention that there were inspectors in Iraq on the ground immediately prior to the invasion who were finding nothing...we just chose not to believe them, instead we believed Chalabi and others who swore they were there...
The actions of Saddam prior to the war are unknown we only know what was reported to us.
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djrevelky1 year, 8 months ago
Ramblingwreck,
Many members of the CIA probably believe that there were WMD in Iraq because...*gasp*...there were WMD in Iraq!
There are countless reports, ignored by the media, of our military finding hundreds of chemical armed warheads. And if anyone wants to say that a ballistic missle with a Sarin nervegas warhead isn't a WMD...then they are either a blind idealogue or smoking some serious reefer.
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quackpot1 year, 8 months ago
As I recall, the military reported that these were totally non-functional weapons left over from the ventures against the Kurds, that they were in such poor repair that they posed more of a problem from leaking than from being functional.
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antonia111 year, 8 months ago
Well there are 2 things you can't deny.
1. "slam dunk" was the 1939487 time the arses in the "administration" have twisted something into a lie
2. Tenet should have spoken up much earlier. Tsk tsk for that.
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Gatsby1 year, 8 months ago
I don't feel at all sorry for Tenet. He was kissing ass - the royal ass if King George - and that ass came back to bite him. Poor guy, he can't even brown-nose successfully.
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momydearestc1 year, 8 months ago
Tenet is a typical liberal cry-baby. Bush should of fired him in 2001. loser. Now he gets 2 mill for his bash-bush book... what a surprise.................I hate bush...pay me....I want to be rich.........
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chevydog1 year, 8 months ago
I don't know what to make of Tenet. He seems to want favor from all, and I don't think he'll end up getting it from anyone. .
That having been said, nobody who read or listened to the run-up to Iraq could escape the realization that GWB was going to have his war--facts, no facts, evidence, no evidence --he was going to have it. Make no mistake, Saddaam was a bad man. But we tolerate and even embrace many bad men and continue to.
Mr. Bush, who claims to know something about Lincoln and his life, should have read the part where Lincoln was being pushed by advisors to go to war with England over the Trent affair. I believe his response was "One war at a time, gentlemen."
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